vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Jan 31, 2013 15:15:33 GMT -5
Can't remember but I think it was a combo of aftermarket drums & crushed washer  Just disc on the back and no fronts stop good on light buggys,madmike Whoa, scary! You don't by chance remember what brand of drums you got or where they came from, do you? |
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vw1s
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Post by vw1s on Jan 31, 2013 18:46:27 GMT -5
I've seen loose axle nuts on stock VW drums, also seen what it can do to the splines when the drum "wobbles" for a few miles. I use my torque-meister on ALL gland nuts and axle nuts that I touch, 35 ft/lbs at the wrench = 315 at the nut! I do 42 ft/lbs on chromoly gland nuts, thats 378 at the nut!!
Disks are a little bit overkill for stopping a rail, but, they don't fade, they don't get sand and mud in them that affects your ability to stop, they don't need adjusting, and, they are easier to maintain (pad changes).
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MadMike
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Post by MadMike on Feb 1, 2013 6:42:37 GMT -5
Don't know what brand,it was a customer's Buggy I do the same as vw1s,One of the best tools to have  ,It's paid for it's self ten fold |
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Feb 1, 2013 16:01:20 GMT -5
I have heard of some inferior quality Chinese and Brazilian drums out there on the market. I wonder if that was part of the problem...poor quality cast iron. From what I gather, German and Italian drums are the ones to get. I am told the quality of the cast iron is superior to the others.
I think I may have to get me one of those contraptions for the axle and gland nuts. Way cheeper than a bigger torque wrench. They sound magical.
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vwrick69
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Post by vwrick69 on Feb 1, 2013 19:55:28 GMT -5
I passed up a 600 ft/lb snapon{?} torque wrench at Lima swapmeet last sun for $125, it was about 4 foot long.
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Feb 4, 2013 1:57:15 GMT -5
Just disc on the back and no fronts stop good on light buggys,madmike Some day I might see if I can get this contraption titled in Michigan, so would be in my best intreats to run brakes on all four corners? My original plan was to swap the wheel cylinders front to back thus setting the braking bias to back. I have heard good things about using the 17mm wheel cylinders up front, and the 22mm ones in the back. It seams to work well for most light buggies. |
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Feb 4, 2013 1:59:22 GMT -5
I passed up a 600 ft/lb snapon{?} torque wrench at Lima swapmeet last sun for $125, it was about 4 foot long. Holy wah, thats a monster of a torque wrench. I'm surprised you didn't snap it up at that price. |
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vwrick69
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Post by vwrick69 on Feb 4, 2013 6:21:55 GMT -5
Been off work going on 3 weeks, due to wrist surgery.
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MadMike
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Post by MadMike on Feb 4, 2013 7:09:02 GMT -5
Hey Dirk, Mi.law sez 4 wheel brakes but theirs plenty going down the roads with only rears |
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Post by bren on Feb 4, 2013 18:30:42 GMT -5
Yup, mine has rear disc only.
It is street legal the right way; assembled roadster title.
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Feb 4, 2013 23:20:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised you guys got away with rear brakes only. How did you manage that?
What would happen if say you got in a crash, and your insurance company found out you were only running rear brakes?
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vwrick69
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Post by vwrick69 on Feb 5, 2013 8:10:43 GMT -5
Put 4 brakes on and run a bias knob or shut off valve to the front. In my experience not enough weight up front to run brakes. They will just lock up and you will not be able to steer. Even my Baja Bug locks up the front wheels first.
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Feb 5, 2013 8:59:42 GMT -5
Put 4 brakes on and run a bias knob or shut off valve to the front. In my experience not enough weight up front to run brakes. They will just lock up and you will not be able to steer. Even my Baja Bug locks up the front wheels first. Did you swap your wheel cylinders front to back, or where were you still running the big 22mm ones up front? |
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MadMike
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Post by MadMike on Feb 5, 2013 9:56:43 GMT -5
I had a very early Buggy with the same size wheel cyl.'s ,still locked up the front 1st ::)last off road buggy I had Neal w/ dual masters and a adjustable bolt for bias,, but a proportioning valve will do the same thing ;D
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vwrick69
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Post by vwrick69 on Feb 6, 2013 7:44:27 GMT -5
Put 4 brakes on and run a bias knob or shut off valve to the front. In my experience not enough weight up front to run brakes. They will just lock up and you will not be able to steer. Even my Baja Bug locks up the front wheels first. Did you swap your wheel cylinders front to back, or where were you still running the big 22mm ones up front? Stock setup. If I ever get back to putting Baja back together I am going disk. |
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Just disc on the back and no fronts stop good on light buggys,madmike
,It's paid for it's self ten fold 
