krafty
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Post by krafty on Nov 10, 2015 14:01:15 GMT -5
We have a customer with a '79 camper / 2000cc type 4 engine that is probably looking for a rebuild. I know that MoFoCo does them, but is there anyone else? The interwebz is full of folks rebuilding type 1 engines, but I'm hard-pressed to find much for the type 4. We can do it ourselves, but ultimately it'll be less expensive to have it outsourced and they can offer a warranty that I can't match.
GEX also does it, but we used them for a type 1 rebuild about 18 months ago and there were enough issues with it when it arrived that I hesitate to use them again.
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Post by 81pumagtc on Nov 10, 2015 20:33:21 GMT -5
Krafty: A Puma owner I know purchased a remanufactured type 4 engine from AVP and is very satisfied with it. Here is a link: www.avp-worldwide.comDave Riedle
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MadMike
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Post by MadMike on Nov 11, 2015 8:38:52 GMT -5
GEX =JUNK Call Jake,815 472-2939,he's way down south ,but no finer type IV guy
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krafty
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Post by krafty on Nov 14, 2015 20:38:27 GMT -5
Thanks guys. Going to make some phone calls on Monday.
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Post by 81pumagtc on Nov 15, 2015 20:09:50 GMT -5
Jake Raby is THE type IV guru, and is the best there is.
Another Puma guy, with maybe the nicest Puma coupe in the world has a Type IV engine and 5-speed gearbox. Very fast, very reliable.
Also very expensive and took almost 6 months to get.
If you have the time and money, worth it.
Dave
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Nov 15, 2015 21:22:16 GMT -5
To the OP, it depends how much you want to spend vs certainty of what you are buying. Jake knows his stuff and is legendary for developing performance T4 engines, but you pay for the years development expense and testing he has done to make each combo what they are.
If you don't want to foot the bill for him to build you a turn key engine, get one of his cam kits and assemble the engine yourself from the parts you want.
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blue71
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Post by blue71 on Nov 16, 2015 15:19:54 GMT -5
Raby engines are $15K plus last I checked. He also sold the TIV Store to LN Engineering so if you want those sorts of parts that who you need to contact.
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krafty
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Post by krafty on Nov 16, 2015 18:23:35 GMT -5
This needs to be bone stock or maybe just a little extra oomph. It's basically JUST a camper that he wants to be able to drive around Michigan on the weekends with his kids and visit state parks, etc. It does not need a monster performer.
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krafty
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Post by krafty on Dec 15, 2015 20:51:54 GMT -5
I think we figured out why this bus was having running issues.
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Post by 81pumagtc on Dec 16, 2015 16:41:13 GMT -5
Oh, that's not good!
Dave Riedle
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vanapplebomb
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Post by vanapplebomb on Dec 16, 2015 19:30:18 GMT -5
Wow, impressive. I would say that's toast. I would take those cylinders to Holland Automotive Machine (26th street, just east of Lincolon ave) and have them bore and hone them out to 96mm. Then sell them on TheSamba or Shop Talk Forums and get something out of them. Someone will Take them off your hands. Then you can use the profit you make to offset a bit of the cost of new pistons and cylinders. I wouldn't use 96mm pistons/cylinders in a bus. Some people do and it works fine, but that is just me. I don't care much for thinner wall slip ins. Boring out 1.8 and 2.0 cylinders to 96mm is equivalent to making a 1641 out of a 1500 or 1600. More displacement, but thinner walls with more potential for warping cylinders in high load applications like a bus. Save the 96mm for guys making a rev happy 1911cc t4 for their light zippy car.
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clintonddk
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Post by clintonddk on Dec 17, 2015 5:42:05 GMT -5
Using 87mm pistons to build a 1641cc engine is a conservative upgrade and people have been doing it with good success for many years. Is it better than stock? Probably not. Now, using 88mm slip in's to build a 1679cc engine is where one may run into warpage that's why they offer a machine in cylinder.
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