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Post by ghiastein on Mar 25, 2011 9:27:28 GMT -5
Wish me luck on the broken exhaust stud. I plan on tackling it this tomorrow.
First up a good soak in PB Blaster and hammer tapping.... Done yesterday and again today.
Then I plan on using my little torch and heating the head up for a long time.
Attack with vice grips lets hope it spins out.
If not I will grind whats left down to the head and carefully drill it out just enough to tap out the old threads.
Lets see what happens
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Post by dunedudex4 on Mar 25, 2011 15:11:28 GMT -5
Dangit, hang in there. Thanks Dave T
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Post by ghiastein on Mar 29, 2011 9:02:39 GMT -5
On Saturday I was able to remove the broken stud with just vice grips. Talk about lucky. Also on Saturday I installed all of the Bus style exhaust system and a bunch of other stuff. I ran out of time so I was not able to try to fire up the engine.
Yesterday, Monday I grabbed what I thought was a charged battery. Connected everything up and static checked the timing. With a little gas down the carb I tried to fire the Bus up.
It was a no go the starter turned over very slowly not enough to start up the Bus.
So I installed my custom Bus hitch and found out that I had to remove my exhaust resonator assembly again to install the Hitch. I also put the dashboard back together again and installed my steering wheel.
Also while sitting in the drivers seat I checked all lights and wipers everything still works.
One of my winter projects was to rewire the horn. I was kind of unsure if it was going to work. I was so afraid that something was not working right but I did verify it. Now the Bus has a working horn now it can talk to other cars.
Before I left the garage yesterday to recharge my battery. I realized that my truck has a fully charged working battery. So after a quick swap I tried it again.
Still the same thing a very slow rotating stater.
So I am guessing that either my starter is bad or my wiring is dirty. I am even thinking that my starter could be angled or my starter bushing is bad. This is all stuff I plan on checking today.
Lets hope for the best. I really want to do my victory lap around the apartment complex.
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Post by ghiastein on Mar 29, 2011 18:52:26 GMT -5
Ok now I am pissed
I charged the battery for 3 hours last night
I removed the starter to swap out the retched starter bushing
I swapped out the starter bushing with one that is good from last year when I installed my NEW STARTER
I bolt the starter in place
Pour gas in the carb
Attempt to start Bus
STARTER TURNS OVER SLOWLY not enough to start Bus
Swap out Starter with a different one from my pile
Pour gas in the carb
Attempt to start Bus
STARTER TURNS OVER SLOWLY not enough to start Bus
OK battery might be low now because of cranking
Grab Battery from Truck
Install truck Battery in Bus
Pour gas in the carb
Attempt to start Bus
STARTER TURNS OVER SLOWLY not enough to start Bus
Now I have no more time until Saturday
Looks to be another crappy weekend
I can't work in the garage when it is raining/snowing. Due to the fact that in order to have room in the garage. I have to move the rear of the Bus out the garage. Just to free up room and work out in the parking lot.
Why am I faced with so many problems just to drive the bus. Now I am wondering is it even worth it?
During the month of March I had a engine sitting ready to install. I would sit at work during a beautiful weekday just to be cursed my a nasty cold and wet weekend. This happened twice in a row.
Finally I get a nice Saturday and install the engine. Only to find out I have to cut my new heater cable to install it.
Planning on a big garage day on Sunday ...... It rains
Ok Monday is my catch-up day and I SNAP AN EXHAUST STUD
Saturday I have a few hours again I remove the broken exhaust stud. The I install everything but not enough time to test fire.
Monday evening TIME TO START THE BUS. Nope starter turns over slowly
Tuesday evening ROUND 2 OF STARTING THE BUS. Nope still that starter turns slowly
I wanted the Bus drivable last weekend. Nope
I really want the Bus drivable for tomorrow / Wednesday because Wifey and I plan on spending the evening together driving around. NOPE
Now we have to drive the BLAZER BECAUSE THE STARTER / BATTERY / SOMETHING WILL NOT LET ME TURN THE ENGINE OVER FAST ENOUGH TO MAKE A POP
NEXT PROBLEM
On the goofy fuel pump required when using an alternator
WHICH ONE IS OUT AND WHICH ONE IS IN UPPER OR LOWER?
YOU THINK THE SMART GERMANS WOULD MARK THINGS LIKE THIS...... ITS KIND OF IMPORTANT.
NOPE ITS NOT DEPICTED IN HAYNES OR BENTLEY BELIEVE ME I CHECKED MANY TIMES
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Post by SplashBug on Mar 29, 2011 20:06:49 GMT -5
Will it turn over easy by hand alt fuel pump is tilted and has a shorter rod
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Post by blue71 on Mar 29, 2011 21:18:22 GMT -5
AJ,
If my memory serves from doing alternator conversions in 2 of my rides the top pipe is the inlet from the tank and the bottom is the outlet to the carb. If I'm wrong in my memory, please somebody correct me.
Here's what I posted on LEAKOIL about my electrical problems with my westy when one of the guys had some starting issues as well:
I had a similar issue with my Westy. After cleaning the transmission ground strap and connections and replacing the electrical half of the ignition switch the problem persisted. Starting it more than twice killed the new battery that I had bought, so I returned it and got a new Series 42 from Advance, I guess it was to be expected with a cheap Walmart battery that I got to pull it on the dolly. That didn't really solve much, as when turning the key I had bright headlights, but no starter engagement. next I replaced the electrical part of the switch, same result. My problem wound up being a bad wire going to a bad Autozone starter that I had bought to replace the one that was on it with a cracked solenoid (Bendix didn't fully extend or withdraw on the AZ one.) A big thanks to Josh for telling me that it could be the long wire that ran the length of the bus to the starter.
I'm looking at a 1971 VW glovebox manual at the moment and the probable causes are:
VW will not start: engine will not turn over or turns over too slowly
1. run down or dead battery
2. loose connections- battery, starter, behind dashboard
3. starter defective
4. on vehicles with automatic stick shift- not in neutral
VW will not start: engine turns over
5. loose connection in ignition system
6. loose connection in primary circuit to coil
7. if spark is present at black cable, trouble is in the ignition system
8. if spark is fairly good at plugs, trouble is most likely in the fuel system
I hope this is of some use.
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Post by ghiastein on Mar 31, 2011 13:33:02 GMT -5
Will it turn over easy by hand alt fuel pump is tilted and has a shorter rod Yes the engine turns over by hand and I am sure the correct fuel pump push rod is installed. Same fuel pump and push rod from last year. AJ, If my memory serves from doing alternator conversions in 2 of my rides the top pipe is the inlet from the tank and the bottom is the outlet to the carb. If I'm wrong in my memory, please somebody correct me. Yep that is the same information I found on thesamba. So my fuel pump is hooked up correctly. Thanks Here's what I posted on LEAKOIL about my electrical problems with my westy when one of the guys had some starting issues as well: I had a similar issue with my Westy. After cleaning the transmission ground strap and connections and replacing the electrical half of the ignition switch the problem persisted. Starting it more than twice killed the new battery that I had bought, so I returned it and got a new Series 42 from Advance, I guess it was to be expected with a cheap Walmart battery that I got to pull it on the dolly. That didn't really solve much, as when turning the key I had bright headlights, but no starter engagement. next I replaced the electrical part of the switch, same result. My problem wound up being a bad wire going to a bad Autozone starter that I had bought to replace the one that was on it with a cracked solenoid (Bendix didn't fully extend or withdraw on the AZ one.) A big thanks to Josh for telling me that it could be the long wire that ran the length of the bus to the starter. The above story is funny........ Yesterday I went to Autozone to have them test my battery and starter that was NEW and working last year. The battery checked out good The starter was BAD Since it was an Autozone starter already with lifetime warranty I swapped it out with a new one that they had. Well I guess the starter that I swapped from my junk pile is bad too. Due to the fact that I was getting the same results with the other starter. The only time I have to install the NEW STARTER is this weekend...... Lets hope for the BEST I will keep you updated |
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Post by Ruffuss on Mar 31, 2011 13:53:16 GMT -5
Will it turn over easy by hand alt fuel pump is tilted and has a shorter rod Yes the engine turns over by hand and I am sure the correct fuel pump push rod is installed. Same fuel pump and push rod from last year. Yep that is the same information I found on thesamba. So my fuel pump is hooked up correctly. Thanks Here's what I posted on LEAKOIL about my electrical problems with my westy when one of the guys had some starting issues as well: I had a similar issue with my Westy. After cleaning the transmission ground strap and connections and replacing the electrical half of the ignition switch the problem persisted. Starting it more than twice killed the new battery that I had bought, so I returned it and got a new Series 42 from Advance, I guess it was to be expected with a cheap Walmart battery that I got to pull it on the dolly. That didn't really solve much, as when turning the key I had bright headlights, but no starter engagement. next I replaced the electrical part of the switch, same result. My problem wound up being a bad wire going to a bad Autozone starter that I had bought to replace the one that was on it with a cracked solenoid (Bendix didn't fully extend or withdraw on the AZ one.) A big thanks to Josh for telling me that it could be the long wire that ran the length of the bus to the starter. The above story is funny........ Yesterday I went to Autozone to have them test my battery and starter that was NEW and working last year. The battery checked out good The starter was BAD Since it was an Autozone starter already with lifetime warranty I swapped it out with a new one that they had. Well I guess the starter that I swapped from my junk pile is bad too. Due to the fact that I was getting the same results with the other starter. The only time I have to install the NEW STARTER is this weekend...... Lets hope for the BEST I will keep you updated GOT KEYS?  ? |
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Post by blue71 on Mar 31, 2011 14:21:40 GMT -5
After doing all that troubleshooting and utter craziness for about a week back in August I figured I should share the electrical gremlins to help everybody else. Looking back it's pretty darn funny, but at the time, no soo much..
The lifetime warranty is nice, but having to go through a few of them is a PITA. I went with an autostick starter so I don't have to worry about bushing problems.
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Post by vdubdriver on Mar 31, 2011 17:06:52 GMT -5
Ouch! that one may sting a little.... |
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Post by ghiastein on Apr 1, 2011 6:30:21 GMT -5
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Post by Ruffuss on Apr 1, 2011 11:59:05 GMT -5
Your the Moderator have at it!!! Just goofing with you. Although it wasn't funny at the time it makes me giggle and shake my head, now.
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Post by ghiastein on Apr 1, 2011 12:51:20 GMT -5
Where is the ignore button? oops I for got to add the smiley ;D Better now? |
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Post by ghiastein on Apr 2, 2011 16:19:39 GMT -5
So far its been....
4 starters 1 was an autostick
2 batteries
All new battery cables
New transmission ground strap
All very clean connections
It is now the end of day 4 and still the starter turns over slowly. I don't even get a POP. I don't know why its not firing I am guessing its because the engine is not turning over fast enough.
That's right am to the point of guessing. Maybe it because of the chip in my windshield. I might as well buy a new windshield now and see if that helps the starter turn faster.
I have poured 2 gallons of gas into the tank.
I have verified that the bus has spark at least on cylinder #1
Firing order is correct checked it many times
I have poured fuel down the carb
Still no pop pop vroom
It takes 3 things to make an engine run
Fuel
Compression
Spark
I have verified all three
Still nothing
I am tired of throwing money time and parts into my pile of bus
I just want a running bus
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Post by akitsuji on Apr 2, 2011 17:31:15 GMT -5
AJ,
I'm not a mechanic. Did you check your distributor?
Aki
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